Brian Masinick
I will probably never get into it, but I would like to know what is the most recent version of Linux From Scratch that supports sysvinit (and the latest one entirely free of systemd).
Posting here thinking someone may have the answer right at their fingertips…
I will also look thru the LFS site (with which I am completely unfamiliar) and perform an internet search.
Thanks.
UPDATE: Internet search claims this is version 12.4 (Sept 2025). Note that the udev apparently involves a tarball that includes systemd in its name.
Steve, I’ve only actually tried Linux From Scratch once, maybe twice. I did go through the entire exercise, and when I came out the other end of it, the result was no different than anything else, but it took WAY more work to accomplish it, so other than the academic exercise of it, to me it was a complete waste of time.
IF, on the other hand, a person TRULY DOES want to learn how to build a complete distribution from the bits and pieces and is willing to actually do the HARD WORK, it’s still possible.
As far as the systemd image or setup, AGAIN, at least in theory THAT component can (or could) be replaced; however, unless they provide the steps or you can locate the steps elsewhere, now you’re REALLY talking about some very heavy research and even replacing entire sets of steps to make sure you don’t bring in systemd components, so it’d take steps, for example, of making sure there’s no elogin and seatd is used, and many other elements along the way.
So is it impossible to do? No, but it takes people with the knowledge that @anticapitalista has. I don’t have the specific knowledge either, I just know from a step by step process, it’s possible to replace all of that systemd stuff, it’s just very complex to do 100% right and if you miss one piece, then it’s not 100% clean.
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