antiX-21/22 to antiX-23

[stevesr0Member]

Problems resolved after following Robin’s advice in post #190728. My upgrade to 23 now appears the same as that of my other system with 23 on it. I haven’t compared it to what a fresh install of 23 would have, but even if it is different, it has no obvious “broken” packages and seems to be up to date.

So, unless some problem rears its head, i consider ths a completed upgrade.

For the next upgrade (to antiX25), I will probably just do a fresh install, <g>.

[Brian MasinickModerator]

stevesr0 wrote:

Problems resolved after following Robin’s advice in post #190728. My upgrade to 23 now appears the same as that of my other system with 23 on it. I haven’t compared it to what a fresh install of 23 would have, but even if it is different, it has no obvious “broken” packages and seems to be up to date.

So, unless some problem rears its head, i consider ths a completed upgrade.

For the next upgrade (to antiX25), I will probably just do a fresh install, <g>.

I’m glad to read that your problems have been resolved; I’ve changed from version to version both ways – through upgrades and through reinstallations. When you upgrade, I believe the major release (e.g. 22 to 23) will change but in minor releases, (eg. 23.1 to 23.2) the version will not change unless you alter the files yourself; I could be wrong; if wrong, neither change unless you do so manually. However, functionally releases are equivalent when updated. Also, if you go from one Debian release to another, those versions DO change; that I can confirm based on my own recent tests. One reason I don’t recall the exact specifics on antiX releases is that I’ve changed the version numbers myself many times during manual updates, hence the reason I suspect that they typically do not change, except POSSIBLY across a MAJOR version change.

I also want to repeat one of the statements: upgraded systems are functionally equivalent to the current supported release; this does NOT apply to TEST releases; those are truly equivalent when upgraded to the final releases or release updates.

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[mjbMember]

Sorry to open an old thread

Can I just keep running 23.2 till eol I think Debian 12 is like June 2026 or will antix keep it updated even after Debians support runs out for bookworm?? I just don’t really need to upgrade when 25/26 drops. Any issues with this approach?

Thank you.mjb

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mjb wrote:

Sorry to open an old thread

Can I just keep running 23.2 till eol I think Debian 12 is like June 2026 or will antix keep it updated even after Debians support runs out for bookworm?? I just don’t really need to upgrade when 25/26 drops. Any issues with this approach?

Thank you.mjb

Yes; until update support ends, you are welcome to use the system. After that, it may be risky to use it, particularly if personal information or financial activities are ever used. Until then, however, it’s a very solid system. I still have mine running too and have NOT gotten rid of it.

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Incidentally “Debian 12 (Bookworm) will receive regular security support until June 10, 2026, and its Long Term Support (LTS) will end on June 30, 2028.” (LTS support is from June 11, 2026 to June 30, 2028).
“Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5 years. Debian LTS is handled by a group of volunteers and companies interested in making it a success.”
Source: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

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Brian Masinick wrote:

mjb wrote:

Sorry to open an old thread

Can I just keep running 23.2 till eol I think Debian 12 is like June 2026 or will antix keep it updated even after Debians support runs out for bookworm?? I just don’t really need to upgrade when 25/26 drops. Any issues with this approach?

Thank you.mjb

Yes; until update support ends, you are welcome to use the system. After that, it may be risky to use it, particularly if personal information or financial activities are ever used. Until then, however, it’s a very solid system. I still have mine running too and have NOT gotten rid of it.

Awesome. Thanks for the speedy reply.

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mjb wrote:

June 30, 2028

I hope you also noticed that with the Long Term Support (LTS) available, an extra two years of maintenance support is provided, giving a total of five years of long term support up to June 30, 2028.

I hope between now and then you’ll find it reasonable to grab antiX 26, which should be released some time soon.
Within a few months after our release and the full community tries it out, anything we may have missed during development should also be resolved; actually the testing of Beta 2 of antiX 25 (now into 26) is going well.

In any case you do not need to rush into any change, but if and when you are ready, our latest stuff will be super solid by then, and you have not just 5-6 months, you can take another year or two; I assure you the next version will be worth obtaining when you are ready to take it on.

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Brian Masinick wrote:

mjb wrote:

June 30, 2028

I hope you also noticed that with the Long Term Support (LTS) available, an extra two years of maintenance support is provided, giving a total of five years of long term support up to June 30, 2028.

I hope between now and then you’ll find it reasonable to grab antiX 26, which should be released some time soon.
Within a few months after our release and the full community tries it out, anything we may have missed during development should also be resolved; actually the testing of Beta 2 of antiX 25 (now into 26) is going well.

In any case you do not need to rush into any change, but if and when you are ready, our latest stuff will be super solid by then, and you have not just 5-6 months, you can take another year or two; I assure you the next version will be worth obtaining when you are ready to take it on.

Thanks Brian for your help.

Another quick question. Would kernels still be updated on the older 23 bookworm edition of antix or once the new 26 drops is the older OS officially not support by antix? I’m new so I’m just trying to work out if I do stay on antix 23 till 2028 will kernels be still added for this version.

Ta,

Mjb.

[Brian MasinickModerator]

Once the new release comes out the emphasis is on the next current release. Security and serious issues are handled but that’s about it. So if a kernel has a security issue, a maintenance kernel might be updated; otherwise no.

You don’t have to rush to change versions but I do recommend changing when it’s convenient prior to the end of support. The new version is almost done.

I recommend changing to it within a year but if you are willing to do only critical updates the choice is yours. I recommend what I suggested above.

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[yeMember]

Hi, if I wanted to solve a problem, where would I post it?

[sybokMember]

ye wrote:

Hi, if I wanted to solve a problem, where would I post it?

Depends on the problem.
If it is related to upgrade from 21|22 -> 23, then I’d go for “antiX-21/22 “Grup Yorum””.
If not otherwise specific, “New Users and General Questions” seems to be the best match (without any details provided on your side).

[grindstoneMember]

@mjb — if in a pinch and seeking new — for **32-bit** (only) kernels on antiX23/bookworm toolchain, I keep-up vanilla kernel.org kernels (no Debian patches!) as they come out for some DSL users. It’s sort of buried in an older backwater thread. FWIW.

[mjbMember]

grindstone wrote:

@mjb — if in a pinch and seeking new — for **32-bit** (only) kernels on antiX23/bookworm toolchain, I keep-up vanilla kernel.org kernels (no Debian patches!) as they come out for some DSL users. It’s sort of buried in an older backwater thread. FWIW.

Ok thank you i will definitely check it out.

-mjb

[mjbMember]

Any issues with using freexian repos once etls comes in. Sorry I’m building a system that needs to last once lts runs out in 2028 and antiX just does what I need so I’m trying to prepare. I’ve spoken to freexian and they have explained what I need to do my main concern or question is. Will I have issue with adding their repo or anything to that degree. Sorry if I don’t make sense I’m just an anxious type of person.

[Brian MasinickModerator]

mjb wrote:

Any issues with using freexian repos once etls comes in. Sorry I’m building a system that needs to last once lts runs out in 2028 and antiX just does what I need so I’m trying to prepare. I’ve spoken to freexian and they have explained what I need to do my main concern or question is. Will I have issue with adding their repo or anything to that degree. Sorry if I don’t make sense I’m just an anxious type of person.

Check out https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended

Debian 12 bookworm

supported architectures still to be determined

2023-06-10 — original Bookworm release

2028-07-01 — Extended Long Term Support (ELTS) begins

2033-06-30 — Extended Long Term Support (ELTS) ends

antiX 26 is now out and if you have a place to check it out, either a virtual machine, an extra system, or a live image, it’s actually very good and I am using it now. I actually have THREE instances of antiX 26 on my main system, an Xfce “Trixie” respin by @Farmer (that’s very good and it preceded the antiX 26 release by several months, then I have an antiX 26 RC 1 build that I updated to final, and an installed instance of antiX 26. All are very good. I’m using an installed instance that I created from a remastered ISO Snapshot with all of my applications. I checked out audio and video; it works fine here, because I’m about to tune in some Sports! 🙂

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