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“Gaza Genocide is not happening in my name” – Stephen Kapos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxLtxX7kPcU

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[kernelpanicMember]

Extremely impressive and touching words, there is nothing more to say.
Thanks for this link anti.

[Brian MasinickModerator]

I’m completely appalled at the leaders of Israel and what they command their military to do. I have to wonder how many in their military ranks have become deserters because of what they’ve seen, or are they as heartless as their leaders?

Several American people I know who are of Jewish-Israel origins are 100% opposed to and vehemently disagree with what the nation of their blood origin is doing to the people of their neighboring nation. At one time I was blinded by false news because I had read somewhere that certain other national and religious organizations were out to obliterate those who don’t look or believe what they do – well that’s exactly what Israel is doing. To what degree any country – definitely my own included – is dead wrong when they behave in this way; it’s disgusting, and 95-99%+ of people anywhere would feel the same way about any injustice, regardless of WHO is behind it!

Right now, I think Israel might be the worst out there; at least there are many people here who vehemently oppose our government when they do wrong and do what they can to expose what’s wrong. I hear our “misdeeds” on the news nearly every day. It may not change everything, nor do it at once; but it does have some positive impact; when wrongs happen repeatedly, there’s a growing discontent, and that can lead to eventual change, at least it has in my lifetime. I think too many “blind people”, from a political standpoint, elected our current bone head. I’m pretty certain that the pendulum will move in another direction in future elections; our directions have not been very positive for quite a while. Like Israel, our own country is in decline and it’s only a matter of time before both countries either have to change or be completely conquered.

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[anticapitalistaForum Admin]

*bumping this*

antiX-25 will probably be code named after this wonderful man – Stephen Kapos

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

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[Brian MasinickModerator]

Great and relevant theme.
This gentleman stands for justice and I agree with him.

Perhaps once again not everyone will understand, but I looked up this 87 year old man. While I am not personally the demonstrating type, I greatly understand and appreciate what he stands for; hopefully many others will too!

Looking forward to seeing our work and also some support for those willing to peacefully stand and walk for what is just and right.

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[RobinMember]

I’ll have to admit, I have difficulties to understand his pronunciation, since he swallows syllables and draws words together, in particular in positions crucial for understanding what he wants to express (e.g. »I think, it’s if got to understand…« at 5:44, no Idea what he wants to say there) so it took long time for me to get at least a partial understanding of his stance, beyond the obvious. Unfortunately, his interviews and statements are the single means to learn something about this person, he is not mentioned in printed scientific discourse nor can you look him up in any encyclopedia. Difficult to evaluate who he is and what he actually stands for. (I’ve looked up meanwhile some more of his interviews, but these are even worse to understand. Partly the interviewers of these homebrew webcasts themselves have heavy accent, mostly impossible to understand for me.)

But I’d like to lay stress on the fact, that what I was able to understand from him until now, I share his attitude. Even when this is for me much more difficult due to the history of our country and what “we” as “the people” have done sadly to the Jews nearly a century ago. Nevertheless, he expresses publicly what I have felt and said for many many years already: The state Isreael misuses the Shoah by narrowing down the “never again” to “never again for us“, excluding others, in particular the Palestinians, and committing now in the name of Shoah precisely the same cruelties “we” have done to the Jewish people living as neighbours among us during the Shoah, stealing and occupying the the possession and land of people, treating others as 2nd class people or worse, not giving a bean for the lives and rights of others, justifying it the same way “we” once did: Lebensraumpolitik, »We have a right to suppress other people, since we are the good ones, and we need their country, so it’s ours, because we can do it. Dare to object!«. This is the very principles what the state Israel was built on, and this is outrageous injustice from the very beginning. The way they have installed it (sadly, it could have been different!) Israel has grown to something we call “Unrechtsstaat”, a concept for which no precisely matching English translation seems to exist covering all facets of this term, since the law is valid and applied merely for people meeting some arbitrarily decreed or practised selective criteria. Meanwhile the hardliner government in Israel obviously don’t hesitate to commit mass murder and crime: We see images of mass graves precisely like the German Nazis used to throw people into after their killing orgies. I very well remember these pictures I have seen already in black and white in my youth. Horrible to accept that history starts repeating, now many of the former victims being the offenders. This is something which must be clearly pronounced, no way to get around (like governments try).

I’m glad to see people like him, survivors of the Shoah, speaking up publicly, since he has/they have the right to speak out loudly: “Not in my name.” And I know some Yewish survivors of Shoah personally, who also state the very same like him about what Israel is currently doing. Not in their name.
So I am convinced, this name is a good choice, worth to be honoured and remembered by antiX in its next version title.

Even when I don’t know much more about Stephen Kapos than that he is a Shoah survivor from Budapest, whose relatives have been slaughtered by Germans, that he has moved to Austria, later to England, and now is a retired architect I don’t know any building he was involved. But I know: He has proven his courage to speak up publicly now, even when facing being seized by police for laying down flowers, and the government or police issuing a gagging order on him, so he is not allowed to explain what precisely he was/is accused of. And all that happening in Great Britain. Unbelievable. Well, the British won’t sentence him to death for protesting, but it is strange to see a country proud of its democratic traditions enforcing line-up of their citizens now behind the stance of the government, not accepting public counterspeech, objections and protest which would be very basic for a functional democracy to exist. In particular when it is about a theme of fundamental importance like that.

A good choice, @anticapitalista. Maybe you can give us (the non-native English speakers, having a hard time to follow him) a bit more background about him, if your time allows?

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[Brian MasinickModerator]

Stephen Kapos – I find this name and this person even more relevant, since only recently in my home country a person who was politically conservative, and probably not in today’s “mainstream” of thinking in our country, was shot by a troubled young man who had a different point of view and felt somehow threatened – the person shot was named Kirk and that’s practically all that’s been in the center of the news for the past few weeks.

Though different, both people have rights to speak, and I don’t care whether I agree or not, those with differing viewpoints, at least in supposedly “free speech” countries should have the right to express their opinion without having to fear for their lives.

I’m looking forward to our antiX release that consistently is named after people who make a difference through what they say and do.

By the way, don’t forget Salonica either, the city of ghosts. @anticapitalista shared with us about that and I now have a book on the subject. antiX is about more than just software; every day it speaks clearly about difficulties and injustices. I’m sure that much more will emerge as we prepare for antiX 25.

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[sybokMember]

Though different, both people have rights to speak, and I don’t care whether I agree or not, those with differing viewpoints, at least in supposedly “free speech” countries should have the right to express their opinion without having to fear for their lives.

I believe that part of the problem is that educational system fails to (sufficiently) teach the following:
1) Differing opinions are all right per se (as long as the law* is not broken).
2) Engaging in a discussion in a healthy manner (not attacking|diminishing|dehumanising the opponent(s)).

The item 2) can be fruitful, if only for one to learn to formulate and argue about their opinions better.

Also, the human tragedy of Mr. Kirk being killed in broad daylight, as mentioned by @masinick, had an afterpiece in cancelling pre-emptying and subsequently restoring the Jimmy Kimmel’s show.

This reminds me that many politicians retort to negative campaign, attacking and|or jabbing at opponents instead of presenting facts.
This stirs up emotions, it increases the polarisation of society (Qui bono?) and thus it overall increases tensions.
A commentator in my country of residence commented: “It’s up to the voters to “punish” [by not voting up for them] the politicians who cross the border [of bad taste to the darker side].”

* A general moral law (not so general) or “judiciary” law (threatened to be hijacked by extremists), … not that easy to express without avoiding caveats|pitfalls.

[Brian MasinickModerator]

I’m glad that you made these points @sybok. They match what I’ve been attempting to express, and you’ve done it in a direct, well organized note.

Thanks for the clear, direct comments.

It’s too bad that so many people (whether they “claim” to be freedom seekers or not),
actually attempt to suppress other healthy comments and opinions.

I’ll go beyond that. I actually enjoy reading, listening, hearing many viewpoints,
particularly those different from mine. They may or may not immediately change my
own viewpoints, but occasionally they might, and what I support or advocate has
changed more than once.

An excellent example of this comes from many of the names and movements behind
the theme names of our releases. Though I may not have “arrived” in perfect
unity with all of them, I have definitely appreciated learning about each of them
and I have changed my point of view as a direct or indirect result of what I’ve
learned. In any case I have great respect for each individual and expression
of opinion.

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