Help Needed: Installing AntiX as a Host for Proxmox VM’s in a Container

[kevMember]

Hello everyone,

I’m seeking assistance with setting up AntiX as a host for running Proxmox in a Container. I have some familiarity with AntiX but not enough, and I would appreciate any guidance you can provide.

Here are a few specific questions I have:

Installation Steps: What are the best steps to install tis? Are there any specific configurations I should be aware of during the installation process?
Post-Installation Configuration: After installing Proxmox in a AntiX Container, is there any essential configurations or tweaks that I should consider to optimize performance?
Troubleshooting: If I encounter issues during installation or setup, what are some common problems and their solutions?
Any help or resources you can share would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance for your support.

Best regards,

Ken

Here’s a list of the benefits of using AntiX for Proxmox versus a fresh installation of Debian for Proxmox + valid use cases:

1. Lightweight AntiX is designed to be lightweight, making it ideal for older hardware or limited resources. fresh Debian install can be heavier depending on the desktop environment chosen.
2. AntiX offers a simple and user-friendly interface, suitable for users who prefer minimalism.
3. The systemd service is not preset on the host, but systemd can be added and activated in the container running on Proxmox to ensure it operates smoothly. This setup offers privacy benefits.
4. Containers can be exported and imported along with the entire Proxmox configuration, VMs, snapshots for easy backup to external storage.
5. Multiple containers offer a better compartmentalization, allowing for better isolation of applications and services within few Proxmox environments and differet versions.

• This topic was modified 12 months ago by kev.
• This topic was modified 12 months ago by kev.
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[abc-nixMember]

Doesn’t Proxmox VE require systemd? I don’t think you can run it on antiX.

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[kevMember]

Yes you can!

option 1 : privileged LXC on a Debian host with systemd:
If you have a antiX host with systemd, you could create a privileged container, chroot in the Proxmox packages, and try to run required services.

option 2:
If you need to keep the antiX host, run full virtualization inside antiX:
Install KVM/QEMU on antiX (possible if kernel supports KVM) and run VMs directly (you’ll get similar functionality to Proxmox but without the web UI).

[abc-nixMember]

kev wrote:

If you have a antiX host with systemd

???

kev wrote:

If you need to keep the antiX host, run full virtualization inside antiX:
Install KVM/QEMU on antiX (possible if kernel supports KVM) and run VMs directly

Isn’t this just using KVM/QEMU to create VMs without Proxmox?

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• This reply was modified 12 months ago by abc-nix.

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[ProwlerGrMember]

I must mention I haven’t tried this.

Could be possible to run proxmox in an LXC or a docker container on an antiX host,

Proxmox in the LXC or docker container would be running systemd, not the antiX host.

The antiX host would require libelogind0 & libelogind-compat for docker, but unsure if any elogind is needed for LXC.
Also LXC containers share the same kernel with the host system, so you’d need the Proxmox kernel booting the antiX host

More for experimental & educational purposes:

https://www.xda-developers.com/i-tried-running-proxmox-inside-a-docker-container/

• This reply was modified 12 months ago by ProwlerGr. Reason: xda link corrected

[techoreMember]

@kev, if you are open to discussing your use case and hear recommendations to make an informed decision, the others and I may be able to help. With the information provided, not sure the solution selected is sensible but I do not have all the information.

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