Old system hanging at GUI start with Sessiontype:

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  • #202589
    Brian Masinick
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      I’m almost certain I’ve seen this before, but I repeatedly searched both our site and the Internet and if the discussion and solution is out there, I’m sorry I missed it because I did try for quite a while to locate any information about this.

      Here’s the situation: my regular Lenovo Thinkpad works fine, but I was trying to reinstall antiX 26 on one of my older systems.
      I actually got it working for a little while, but upon one of the reboots it started hanging once the GUI attempts to start with a green messsage saying only Sessiontype:

      I am able to exit to a command line and run commands, and I’ve tried many things, including reinstalling xorg, copying /etc/skel configurations to the default account (I’m using demo on this one) and several other things, but I must be tired; I seem to be going in circles, and therefore I’d greatly appreciate some sanity and assistance, even if it’s to point to a discussion that actually resolves this issue.

      Grateful for helping me in my tired state; thanks!

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      #202597
      sybok
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        Hi Brian, would you consider creating a new user (effectively clean slate on top of the current system) and see if the account is affected as well?

        That could be an overkill but the user can be removed afterwards.

        #202614
        stevesr0
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          Hi Brian,

          A basic question is – is it hardware or software?

          Does a live usb still work fine in extended use?

          #202624
          Brian Masinick
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            Hi Brian,

            A basic question is – is it hardware or software?

            Does a live usb still work fine in extended use?

            A live USB is a second issue. I’ve figured out before how to start a Live USB but yesterday I had no luck.

            To answer the question from Sybok, I’ll try creating another account and see what happens then.

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            #202629
            Brian Masinick
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              Hi Brian, would you consider creating a new user (effectively clean slate on top of the current system) and see if the account is affected as well?

              That could be an overkill but the user can be removed afterwards.

              I tried doing that. Right now another account is set to the default GUI login.
              What’s complicating all of this is the inability to use our convenient GUI tools to resolve all of this.

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              #202631
              olsztyn
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                I actually got it working for a little while, but upon one of the reboots it started hanging once the GUI attempts to start with a green messsage saying only Sessiontype:

                It appears to me that slimski (if you still use slimski) attempts to start the default X session type, such as icewm and possibly autologin was set up but something went wrong? If you can get into an alternate session on one of VT terminals (TTY 2 or 3) and start X then disable autologin so login would be required on slimski, did you try that possibility?
                I think I encounterd a similar issue in the past and this fixed it, but your cause of issue may be different though than mine at that time…
                Just would not hurt to try though.

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                Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                http://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                #202636
                Brian Masinick
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                  I disabled autologin in the /etc/slimski.local.conf configuration file.
                  That helped me see that the default login is not working.

                  I think the next thing is to completely reinstall this system;
                  This Lenovo X201 is not cooperating in reading and installing from USB at the moment.

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                  #202637
                  olsztyn
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                    I think the next thing is to completely reinstall this system;
                    This Lenovo X201 is not cooperating in reading and installing from USB at the moment.

                    I would do the same. X201 is a great machine. I have X220, which is similar…

                    Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                    http://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                    #202639
                    Brian Masinick
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                      I think the next thing is to completely reinstall this system;
                      This Lenovo X201 is not cooperating in reading and installing from USB at the moment.

                      I would do the same. X201 is a great machine. I have X220, which is similar,

                      I enjoy it too. I’ve done what I can to alter the boot order.
                      I placed the USB as the first boot option, and yet when I go
                      to reboot with an installation USB present, the only option shown is to
                      boot from the first hard drive.

                      I’ve used F12 to boot from another device; usually that works.
                      I’ve also used F1 to alter the settings and I’ve done so carefully
                      without success.

                      I’ve looked up information on it and I haven’t gotten anywhere thus far,
                      Any wisdom on that front?

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                      #202653
                      wildstar84
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                        I would look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors happening there.

                        #202656
                        Wallon
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                          Dear @Brian Masinick,

                          On your system, have you tried this;

                          1) Stop slimski

                          For runit;
                          sudo sv down slimski

                          For sysVinit;
                          sudo service slimski stop

                          2) Start desktop;

                          startx icewm
                          # or
                          startx fluxbox
                          # or
                          startx

                          3) New session;

                          desktop-session-default icewm

                          4) Restart slimski;

                          # runit
                          sudo sv up slimski
                          # or
                          # sysVinit
                          sudo service slimski start

                          Best,
                          Wallon

                          #202658
                          Brian Masinick
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                            I think I found the problem; I have to use an older technology
                            USB for this system. I put a few different ones in and some
                            of them DO show up, so I’m downloading and installing a new
                            instance of antiX 26 on one of those devices; that should
                            do it!

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                            #202662
                            Brian Masinick
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                              I think I found the problem; I have to use an older technology
                              USB for this system. I put a few different ones in and some
                              of them DO show up, so I’m downloading and installing a new
                              instance of antiX 26 on one of those devices; that should
                              do it!

                              Yup, that did it, finishing up a fresh antiX 26 install
                              on this system!

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                              #202693
                              olsztyn
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                                I think I found the problem; I have to use an older technology
                                USB for this system. I put a few different ones in and some
                                of them DO show up, so I’m downloading and installing a new
                                instance of antiX 26 on one of those devices; that should
                                do it!

                                Could you share some more info on these different USB devices that some do boot and some do not?
                                This is interesting. I would not think X201 laptop would require some old USB…
                                I have noticed however that some USB devices do not boot properly on my laptops regardless the age of laptops… Kingston Traveller was one.

                                Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                                http://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                                #202699
                                stevesr0
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                                  Hi Brian,

                                  Re the usb drive doesn’t show up. There was someone with the same complaint on my local LUG. When I looked this up, an answer I found was that the BIOS/UEFI will only list devices it can recognize. So, it is plausible that (if possible) changing the BIOS/UEFI (or perhaps editing the BIOS “shell”) would allow that computer to handle a different type of usb drive.

                                  Thanks for the specifics that it was the type (generation or “speed”?) of the drive that was the problem. I will pass that back to the person in my LUG with the similar problem.

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