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m4r35n357
As I think I have mentioned elsewhere, I use Alpine on my Raspberry Pis, it starts as a very minimal install, but you can add almost anything. It is not a competitor to antiX (for me) because it is MUSL-based, and I am running the aarch64 architecture. Perhaps this will give a little context to some things I have posted in other parts of this forum!
Here is a screenshot overview of resource usage on the Pi5 just after login (with external mounts/NFS commented out in fstab). Note, this is not a “joke” system (it is a cut-down version of what is running on my Pi500) and includes Claws/Firefox/LibreWolf, with cmus & mplayer for multimedia using pipewire/ALSA and also has both gcc and clang compilers, and a mostly full Latex installation!
Anyone else here tried it?
BTW the “procs” alias is defined as (why not try it on your system?):
alias procs='ps -H -F -N --pid 2 --ppid 2 -C ps,grep'Also, screenshot courtesy of “scrot”.
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This topic is now ONLY for discussion about the DISTRIBUTION Alpine Linux.
A separate topic was created for the digression on the original topic; both threads are now available.
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This search pageThank you Brian! Anyway, as I was saying . . . . the package manager is very nice too, I actually prefer it to apt:
https://ariadne.space/2021/04/24/why-apktools-is-different-than.html
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Oh dear, Alpine have just “jumped the shark” as far as I am concerned with version 3.24. No more gtk2, so no hexchat, gkrellm (OK I had to build that myself but I needed gtk2 dev packages) etc.
At least they are not a “rolling” distribution , so I will stick with 3.23 for my Pi systems.
https://devuanusers.com/thread-list-of-still-useful-software-using-gtk2–100
[not sure why the link does not work here, it works in the URL bar]
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enigma9o7
[not sure why the link does not work here, it works in the URL bar]
Cuz there’s supposed to be two dashes between gtk2 and 100. Not sure how to post a link here…. using URL tags changes the two dashes into a doubledash which is wrong. Seems a bug in the URL tag of this forum software.
https://devuanusers.com/thread-list-of-still-useful-software-using-gtk2--100Ardour
Artha (1.0.5-3)
Asunder
Atril (1.8.1+dfsg1-4+deb8u1)
Audacity (2.0.1)
Claws Mail (3.18.0)
Dia
EasyTAG (2.1.10)
Engrampa (1.8.1+dfsg1-1)
FileZilla (3.39.0-2+deb10u1)
Galculator (1.3.4-1)
Geany (1.29)
gFTP
Gnumeric (1.10.17)
GPA (0.10.0-7)
GParted (0.32)
GSmartControl (0.9.0)
Gworldclock (1.4.4-12)
Hardinfo (0.5.1+git20180227-2.1+b1)
HexChat
Leafpad
Liferea (1.8.6-1.1)
LXDE (11)
MATE (1.10.0-2)
Meld (1.8.6)
Mirage (0.9.5.2)
NetworkManager GNOME (0.8.999-1)
Nitrogen
Osmo (0.2.14-4+b1)
Pale Moon
Parcellite (1.2.1-4)
Pidgin
Snes9x (1.52)
SpaceFM (1.0.6-5+b1)
Sylpheed
Synaptic (0.75.13)
Thunar (1.6.15-1)
Transmission (2.33-2)
VeraCrypt (1-24)
Viewnior (1.6-1)
Xfce (4.12.1-6)
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Also re hexchat, there is a gtk3 fork called zoitechat. its in debian repos (forky and trixie-backports).
And re gtk2, there’s that gtk2-ng fork which will likely keep gtk2 apps running with a maintained toolkit for much longer. Dunno if Alpine Linux has any plans with it, but I could see on that devuan forum they certainly are interested!Well I just upgraded my “server” Pi to 3.24, and gtk+2.0 is still installed. It was in the world file, so most probably that is what stopped it being removed.
So, keep it in your world file!
It would appear that if you want a fresh install of 3.24 with gtk+2.0 included, you will need to install v3.23, apk add gtk+2.0, then upgrade 😉
I will copy this to the mailing list and see what response I get 😉
valera
Latest news. Alpine, following Gentoo, is forced to use Systemd.
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Apparently AI generated fake news: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/116638414782231497
One thing is for sure with AI.
You can never reliably trust info from sources you used to trust.One thing is for sure with AI.
You can never reliably trust info from sources you used to trust.Thank you. H-yes…. The internet has changed.
Brian Masinick
One thing is for sure with AI.
You can never reliably trust info from sources you used to trust.That’s for sure. One excellent example for me is YouTube when it comes to stories about Sports and especially speculation about who is going to be traded and who is not. Even once reliable sources are chomping their teeth in an attempt to beat others to a story and meanwhile the truth and accuracy about anything is close to zero.
I have to visit the major sports networks, and even they are not as accurate as they once were, all because of the noise as noted above! So there is yet another area where AI has NOT been helpful at all – at least for me!
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