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ProwlerGr
Hi @anticapitalista
Has there been a change in where 66 puts its scripts compared to earlier versions?
Yes & No…
https://web.obarun.org/software/66/v0.6.1.2/frontend/66 (in Obarun) has always intended for packaged services to go under /usr/share/66.
The /etc/66 folder (which overrides the /usr/share/66) is intended for manual/local edits.In the original spin we pretty much created services manually & under /etc/66 once we saw that they worked we packaged them as-is.
Now I have created (or ported) proper service debs which follow Obarun’s structure under /usr/share/66.What happened to the /etc/runit-core scripts and what has replaced them?
I have not used these at all, I have repackaged the services separately (runit-service-xxxxx). These packages also include sysvinit blockers which is a much more elegant solution than removing sysvinit scripts.
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I’m fortunate that I didn’t runinto a problem with runit because the system I started from already had a runit configuration; I ran the bash script.
I tried doing the same thing from the Cana version; that didn’t work, probably because of the held packages.
However the Cana version as it exists has a nice multi-init configuration too with an Xfce desktop and dinit installed.I’m running dinit with it now and sound works.
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I got it fixed.
sudo apt update && sudo apt -y upgrade runit-service-connmandThanks for all the bug reports, I will shortly upload new iso’s soon that have all these resolved.
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I got it fixed.
sudo apt update && sudo apt -y upgrade runit-service-connmandThanks for all the bug reports, I will shortly upload new iso’s soon that have all these resolved.
Yes, it works.
I see what you did:
# Remove /etc/resolv.conf if it is a dead link if [ ! -e /etc/resolv.conf ]; then rm -rf /etc/resolv.conf fiRemove the dead /etc/resolv.conf symlink first, then start connmand.
I did not think about this.
I thought it would overwrite the broken one during boot.
But I will keep that in mind for future.
Some other things to consider before publishing another iso:
1. The shutdown in runit is very slow compared to the other inits.
How to optimize this?
2. The /etc/localtime symlink is broken.
It currently points to /usr/share/zoneinfo/ETC.
It should point out to the local time that I had accepted during install.
How to fix this?
New ISO’s created, the OP links have been updated
anticapitalX
New ISO’s created, the OP links have been updated
thank you for doing this . having multiple init choices is a big step forward for antiX.
your efforts are highly appreciated 👍Let's accept antiX as it is
Pure and Elegant by its natureBrian Masinick
Thanks for the update @ProwlerGr.
More feedback:
1) I’m not sure if everything should “work” properly when running from USB;
I’m able to boot them; I was able to boot and reboot using OpenRC just fine.
That was not the case when I went to s6-66; I’m not sure why; the routines
were there, but I couldn’t get them to restart or poweroff my system.
2) One thing I should have also mentioned too; like antiX, I can’t run it from
boot and get networking without hacking in a kernel from another partition;
even that was a challenge the first time; I solved it by using the script
from a working system. If you’re willing, it’d be great to include a much
newer kernel for the 64-bit version; Cana, a.k.a. @calciumsodium, created
his own 6.15 Cana linux image; that works REALLY well for me; in fact, though
his “multi-init” respin has other issues that you’ve nicely resolved, his
version boots and loads easily on my newest system, so that’s what I’m using
now.I will go back to an older system to give your image a closer look.
It appears that some things are better; I’d like to see if the items I highlighted
above are actually resolved when I run on older hardware.Keep up the good work; it IS looking better than the previous build and
a definite upgrade over last year’s model; great concept, and the
implementation continues to improve. I’ll give more feedback once I get my
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I’m pleased to report that antiX-23.2 – init-diversity – is booted to the desktop:
s6-66 –ps ax | head -2; sudo ps_mem.py; inxi -zv4 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/s6-svscan -t 0 -L 256 /run/66/scandir/0 Private + Shared = RAM used Program 152.0 KiB + 24.5 KiB = 176.5 KiB seatd 228.0 KiB + 58.0 KiB = 286.0 KiB s6-ipcserverd (2) 300.0 KiB + 25.5 KiB = 325.5 KiB acpid 316.0 KiB + 65.0 KiB = 381.0 KiB s6-svscan (2) 260.0 KiB + 167.5 KiB = 427.5 KiB startup 272.0 KiB + 155.5 KiB = 427.5 KiB network-check-a 396.0 KiB + 32.5 KiB = 428.5 KiB 66-shutdownd 376.0 KiB + 93.5 KiB = 469.5 KiB dbus-launch 372.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 490.5 KiB icewm-session 360.0 KiB + 155.5 KiB = 515.5 KiB udevil 416.0 KiB + 114.0 KiB = 530.0 KiB s6-fdholderd (2) 464.0 KiB + 252.5 KiB = 716.5 KiB agetty (3) 668.0 KiB + 310.5 KiB = 978.5 KiB devmon 816.0 KiB + 288.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB desktop-session 944.0 KiB + 309.0 KiB = 1.2 MiB dbus-daemon (2) 1.2 MiB + 213.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB s6-log (9) 900.0 KiB + 741.0 KiB = 1.6 MiB sudo (2) 1.8 MiB + 327.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB bash 1.6 MiB + 613.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB pipewire-pulse 2.1 MiB + 506.5 KiB = 2.6 MiB conky 3.0 MiB + 579.5 KiB = 3.6 MiB s6-supervise (25) 3.7 MiB + 137.5 KiB = 3.9 MiB connmand 3.8 MiB + 561.5 KiB = 4.4 MiB udevd 4.4 MiB + 909.5 KiB = 5.3 MiB slimski 4.7 MiB + 582.5 KiB = 5.3 MiB at-spi-bus-launcher 3.6 MiB + 2.7 MiB = 6.2 MiB volumeicon 5.4 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 6.6 MiB pipewire 7.7 MiB + 543.5 KiB = 8.2 MiB wpa_supplicant 5.8 MiB + 2.5 MiB = 8.3 MiB zzzfm 8.2 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 9.6 MiB wireplumber 7.3 MiB + 4.0 MiB = 11.3 MiB icewm 6.9 MiB + 5.6 MiB = 12.5 MiB roxterm 51.3 MiB + 18.9 MiB = 70.3 MiB cmst 58.9 MiB + 17.7 MiB = 76.6 MiB Xorg 462.5 MiB + 129.1 MiB = 591.6 MiB firefox-esr (10) --------------------------------- 842.0 MiB ================================= System: Kernel: 6.1.105-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.7.4 Distro: antiX-23.2_x64 May 12 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Machine: Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5558 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: 086DKN v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: A18 date: 12/30/2019 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 30.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 30.1/41.4 Wh (72.6%) volts: 16.2 min: 14.8 model: Samsung SDI DELL 07G07587587 status: full CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i7-5500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell rev: 4 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1513 min/max: 500/3000 cores: 1: 1513 2: 1513 3: 1513 4: 1513 bogomips: 19157 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-8 bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] vendor: Dell driver: N/A arch: Kepler-2 bus-ID: 08:00.0 Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD driver: uvcvideo type: USB bus-ID: 2-5:3 Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: intel mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) Network: Device-1: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 06:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 504.9 GiB used: 1.91 GiB (0.4%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: PNY model: USB 3.2.1 FD size: 57.77 GiB type: USB Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 Info: Memory: total: 8 GiB available: 7.67 GiB used: 1.3 GiB (16.9%) Processes: 183 Uptime: 5m Init: s6 Packages: 2054 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.36--
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I’ve booted into another init – runit; had difficulty rebooting from s6-66; will try again WITHOUT first using the system logout dialogue; that may have caused the problem. Successfully updated inxi as one practical test:
ps ax | head -2; sudo ps_mem.py; inxi -zv4y68 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ? Ss 0:00 runit Private + Shared = RAM used Program 116.0 KiB + 14.5 KiB = 130.5 KiB runit 132.0 KiB + 17.5 KiB = 149.5 KiB runsvdir 160.0 KiB + 28.5 KiB = 188.5 KiB seatd 300.0 KiB + 28.5 KiB = 328.5 KiB acpid 264.0 KiB + 197.5 KiB = 461.5 KiB startup 376.0 KiB + 87.5 KiB = 463.5 KiB dbus-launch 372.0 KiB + 126.5 KiB = 498.5 KiB icewm-session 364.0 KiB + 160.5 KiB = 524.5 KiB udevil 664.0 KiB + 323.5 KiB = 987.5 KiB devmon 820.0 KiB + 352.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB desktop-session 840.0 KiB + 603.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB at-spi-bus-launcher 1.0 MiB + 465.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB getty (7) 816.0 KiB + 772.0 KiB = 1.6 MiB sudo (2) 1.1 MiB + 486.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB dbus-daemon (3) 1.5 MiB + 346.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB runsv (17) 1.8 MiB + 427.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB udevd 1.6 MiB + 620.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB pipewire-pulse 2.1 MiB + 203.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB bluetoothd 2.0 MiB + 356.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB bash 2.1 MiB + 508.5 KiB = 2.6 MiB conky 2.9 MiB + 425.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB at-spi2-registryd 3.7 MiB + 120.5 KiB = 3.9 MiB connmand 2.8 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 4.2 MiB sshd 4.5 MiB + 988.5 KiB = 5.4 MiB slimski 3.7 MiB + 3.0 MiB = 6.7 MiB volumeicon 5.5 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 6.9 MiB wpa_supplicant 6.8 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 8.1 MiB pipewire 5.9 MiB + 2.8 MiB = 8.7 MiB zzzfm 10.1 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 11.7 MiB wireplumber 8.1 MiB + 3.8 MiB = 12.0 MiB icewm 7.6 MiB + 5.7 MiB = 13.3 MiB roxterm 52.3 MiB + 24.1 MiB = 76.4 MiB Xorg 503.1 MiB + 136.0 MiB = 639.1 MiB firefox-bin (10) --------------------------------- 824.1 MiB ================================= System: Kernel: 6.1.105-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.7.4 Distro: antiX-23.2_x64 May 12 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Machine: Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5558 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: 086DKN v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: A18 date: 12/30/2019 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 30.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 30.1/41.4 Wh (72.6%) volts: 16.2 min: 14.8 model: Samsung SDI DELL 07G07587587 status: full CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i7-5500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell rev: 4 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 500 min/max: 500/3000 cores: 1: 500 2: 500 3: 500 4: 500 bogomips: 19154 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-8 bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] vendor: Dell driver: N/A arch: Kepler-2 bus-ID: 08:00.0 Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD driver: uvcvideo type: USB bus-ID: 2-5:3 Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: intel mesa v: 22.3.6 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr Network: Device-1: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 06:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 504.9 GiB used: 1.91 GiB (0.4%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: PNY model: USB 3.2.1 FD size: 57.77 GiB type: USB Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 Info: Memory: total: 8 GiB available: 7.67 GiB used: 1.88 GiB (24.6%) Processes: 170 Uptime: 15m Init: runit Packages: 2052 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.38--
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install. i will park in zzz-fluxbox dinit and poke around.System: Birth: 2025-05-13 09:47:20.000000000 -0700 Host: heap Kernel: 6.1.105-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.105-antix.1-amd64-smp root=UUID=d97283c3-ecd1-48c2-ac81-033f85e3134c ro quiet selinux=0 init=/lib/dinit/dinit Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 tools: avail: slock,xlock dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-23.2_x64 May 12 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Info: Memory: total: 4 GiB note: est. available: 3.63 GiB used: 1.08 GiB (29.9%) Processes: 167 Power: uptime: 11m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 1.43 GiB Init: Dinit v: 0.19.4 default: 2 tool: rc-service Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2054 libs: 1001 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,synaptic Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.36Brian Masinick
Back with s6-66; runit shutdown properly when I used the script in /lib/runit; I’ll use the script in /lib/s6-66 and hope for the same positive result.
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dinit no poweroff. Attempt to kill init! exit 00008900
kernel5, kernel6, /lib/dinit/shutdown,Brian Masinick
dinit no poweroff. Attempt to kill init! exit 00008900
kernel5, kernel6, /lib/dinit/shutdown,On my system, dinit core dumps when I attempt to shutdown or reboot using the menu.
SysVinit and runit shutdown and reboot correctly with the menu; s6-66 hangs the system’s reboot
menu and will not do anything when using /lib/init-diversity routines or lib/s6-66 routines.
I have to recheck the other options.All of them seem to function OK, it’s the reboot/shutdown that’s having problems in a few of them.
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dinit no poweroff. Attempt to kill init! exit 00008900
kernel5, kernel6, /lib/dinit/shutdown,On my system, dinit core dumps when I attempt to shutdown or reboot using the menu.
SysVinit and runit shutdown and reboot correctly with the menu; s6-66 hangs the system’s reboot
menu and will not do anything when using /lib/init-diversity routines or lib/s6-66 routines.
I have to recheck the other options.All of them seem to function OK, it’s the reboot/shutdown that’s having problems in a few of them.
It looks like s6-rc and s6-66 have the reboot/poweroff issue – s6-rc just keeps dumping a reboot warning repeatedly without rebooting; dinit crashes, sysvinit, runit, and OpenRC function with the logout toolbar menu as expected.
These are the only issues I’ve uncovered today.
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dinit no poweroff. Attempt to kill init! exit 00008900
kernel5, kernel6, /lib/dinit/shutdown,On my system, dinit core dumps when I attempt to shutdown or reboot using the menu.
SysVinit and runit shutdown and reboot correctly with the menu; s6-66 hangs the system’s reboot
menu and will not do anything when using /lib/init-diversity routines or lib/s6-66 routines.
I have to recheck the other options.All of them seem to function OK, it’s the reboot/shutdown that’s having problems in a few of them.
It looks like s6-rc and s6-66 have the reboot/poweroff issue – s6-rc just keeps dumping a reboot warning repeatedly without rebooting; dinit crashes, sysvinit, runit, and OpenRC function with the logout toolbar menu as expected.
These are the only issues I’ve uncovered today.
All of this took place when I was running live from a USB Flash Drive.
While that’s probably still a legitimate test case, previously I did
NOT have any boot or reboot issues on an installed instance, so I’m
going to install now using the bash script so that I don’t have to
hack in a network usable kernel; old kernels only work on old systems.More once I try an installed instance.
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