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June 12, 2025 at 4:25 pm #179230
anticapitalistaForum AdminJust to give some extra context as to why the Palestine flag appeared in the header in the last few days.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/10/explainer-what-is-the-global-march-for-gaza-all-about
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
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June 13, 2025 at 12:35 am #179240Xunzi_23
MemberNot all Jews are braindead, the need is now to add Iran to the list of those attacked by the israeli hardliners, mostly the weapons come from USA and UK.
so those countrys are implicit aggressors too, in particular the Nazi Oligarchy
usa, the obviously no longer united states, see attacks on freedom in LA….The First Jewish Anti-Zionist Congress will take place from June 13 to 15 in Vienna, Austria, with the aim of amplifying Jewish voices against Zionism and assisting the global movement for justice and liberation in Palestine.
June 13, 2025 at 12:52 am #179241abc-nix
MemberNot all Jews are braindead
Stop the hate speech, please.
And stop you anti-west propaganda. It is as bad as the west propaganda.
Keep in topic.
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June 13, 2025 at 1:53 am #179243
sybokMember@abc-nix:
Stop the hate speech, please.
From all the posts I have read by @Xunzi_23 in the past, I believe this was not intended as a hate-speech, rather a bad choice of words; my hunch is that he actually meant extremely narrow/single-minded (conditioned to and thoroughly following the one single correct ideology).
June 13, 2025 at 3:29 am #179249madibi
Member#STOPHATESPEACHĆSPLEASE
@xunzi just did a few days ago an hate speach about christians and christianity. Forgetting that in every community there are people that are making sin and mistakes
Please remember how many death were done in the name of communism during the XXth siecle: Mao Tze Tung and Stalin are by far the most infamous murderer of the history of humanity. Italian communist party thied to hide theyr actiorns till mid eightyes.@anticapitalista Please remember that the “free Palestine” or the “from the river to the see” claims, are incitements to the extermination of Jews people.
This in an historical panorama where palestinians refused the 2 state solution at least 8 times in the last 78 years, moved a lot of wars and always lost.Theyr partyes are terrorist ones. Please read the last’s week speech of OLP president Abu Mazen against Hamas.
Moreover the above mentioned hate speaches are against the forum rules, and admins should remove them before the discussion heats
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June 13, 2025 at 4:24 am #179252
anticapitalistaForum Admin#
@anticapitalista Please remember that the āfree Palestineā or the āfrom the river to the seeā claims, are incitements to the extermination of Jews people….
Except it isn’t.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
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June 13, 2025 at 4:46 am #179253
punrangerMemberThis in an historical panorama where palestinians refused the 2 state solution at least 8 times in the last 78 years, moved a lot of wars and always lost.
I’m not saying that I support every act and decision made by the Palestinians in this conflict. But this a historical panorama where a large part of the population of the area had no say in the formation of the state of Israel, and where at least 700 000 people were forcibly expelled from their homes and their land in 1948. What you see as an unwillingness to cooperate, I see as a just unwillingness of the people to accept defeat. If it is so that the Palestinians have lost every war, why are they still fighting?
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June 13, 2025 at 4:56 am #179254andfree
MemberHi, @stevesr0.
I’m afraid I miss the point in this phrase:I think there are worse conflicts in the world (although I might be wrong, as I am not an āexpertā in such things).
Maybe there are worse but maybe not? And from what point of view are they worse? Are they worse than a genocide? Are they worse genocides than a less bad genocide? Should we remove our solidarity from less to more badly genocided people? Or should we always refuse our solidarity, so as to be consistent? It sounds to me like Niemƶller’s (or Brecht’s) “First They Came”, but inverted.
No mention of the people involved on all sides (including non Jewish, non Arab Israelis), just the āstateā.
My solution to the current conflict is a fantasy ā the rest of the world agrees that the [Abrahamic] āholy landā should be made peaceful and removes all residents to separate enclaves far from each other where they can stop fighting with each other and hopefully stop fighting at all. They should be told they can return to the āholy landā when they can prove they will be able live together without violence and with good relations, perhaps in 100 years.)
I feel that in your “utopia” there’s still a “state” that violently forces people to move from one enclave to another.
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June 13, 2025 at 5:09 am #179255abc-nix
MemberIām not saying that I support every act and decision made by the Palestinians in this conflict.
The Palestinians are not making anything. It is Hamas.
The “jews” are not making anything, it is Netanyahu.
The Iranians are not making anything, it is Jamenei and the Iranian government.The people can do nothing. There is no democracy. The f*cking dictators of the world are making decisions under their flags, manipulating public opinion.
To me, “Free Palestine” means “Free Hamas”. It should be “Free the Palestinians”. No flags, no governments, no politics.
The admins share strong opinions with the hateful comments, so I cannot moderate them. I am here to help people with antiX problems, not discuss things out of our control.
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June 13, 2025 at 5:31 am #179257anticapitalX
MemberThe Iranians are not making anything, it is Jamenei and the Israeli government.
in case you didn’t hear it , As we where taking about this subject , Israel Targets Iran’s Nuclear Sites In Major Attack
down with the war.
Let's accept antiX as it is
Pure and Elegant by its natureJune 13, 2025 at 5:40 am #179258abc-nix
Memberin case you didnāt hear it , As we where taking about this subject , Israel Targets Iranās Nuclear Sites In Major Attack
I am still talking about the Iranian PEOPLE. If that was not clear.
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June 13, 2025 at 5:51 am #179260
anticapitalistaForum AdminI find it strange that people associate the Palestinian flag only with Hamas.
Palestinian resistance has always taken many forms; some armed, some not.
Some are ‘Islamic’ inspired, others ‘Communist’ inspired, others ‘Community’ based.Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
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June 13, 2025 at 7:35 am #179263
sybokMemberI find it strange that people associate the Palestinian flag only with Hamas.
In my case, it is “not only with” but “also with” and I personally would like to see a slightly more detailed slogan than the simple and short “Free Palestine.”.
A slogan with something added that precludes them and others from associating with fundamentalists/atrocities of Palestinian origin.Perhaps “Free Palestinian people.” is closer to my taste, but then… not entirely there because some may think that the freedom will come in the spirit of exterminating one side or the other (or both).
Arrrrgh, it is not easy to express it precisely and concisely.
June 13, 2025 at 7:42 am #179264
punrangerMemberTo me, āFree Palestineā means āFree Hamasā. It should be āFree the Palestiniansā. No flags, no governments, no politics.
I think it is sad that the discussion of Palestine (and many other similar topics) comes down to the interpretation of slogans. I do not consider Hamas a legitimate ruler of Gaza, and I do not support a lot of their actions. I do not that consider saying “Free Palestine” means supporting Hamas. I support the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination.
I DO think that the actions taken by the Israeli government, in particular by Bibi, has contributed to the radicalization of Hamas. But it is perhaps best to to not go further into that discussion.
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June 13, 2025 at 9:01 am #179268abc-nix
MemberThe Iranian government has been sponsoring Hamas for years. If instead of using that money for warfare they had helped migrate the Gaza population to Iran, they would be living a happy life. But they don’t care about the people; they only care about the “nation”. About the flag. About the land.
I find it strange that people associate the Palestinian flag only with Hamas.
Who is sponsoring the propaganda for “Palestina: from the river to the sea”? Nationalists? Does this flag remind you of something? Or is it also a resistance flag?
Just to give some extra context as to why the Palestine flag appeared in the header in the last few days.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/10/explainer-what-is-the-global-march-for-gaza-all-about
Activists are useful tools to continue spreading the Ayatollah Regime’s message to “liberate” the Palestinian “nation”. The people living and suffering there are also tools, not as important as the land they inhabit.
I support the Palestinian peopleās right to self-determination.
When a bus is about to hit you and your family, will you move aside to avoid its collision or will you stand for your right to occupy any space in the sidewalk? You do what is best for your family and move away.
Governments are the evil of this era. Before, they were kings, “selected by god”. Now, they are rules, “elected by the people”. Only the mad can achieve power. Nothing has changed.
The use of the flag as a symbol for resistance is propaganda by the Ayatollah. They could have saved and integrated their people, but they are fighting a war for land and resources, the same as the Israeli government. That is why this conflict is complex, and I will not side with anything other than the people.
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